The Ferrari and Maserati CAR SWAP MYSTERY? Behind the New MC20 and Roma

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The Maserati MC20 could have been a Ferrari or an Alfa Romeo, and don't you think there's a disturbing similarity between the Ferrari Roma and the Maserati Alfieri concept that was launched?! Join me for a Fuel For Thought to have a think about the swap of cars between the Italian manufacturers, you might be surprised!
After 15 years since they last made a supercar, Maserati are back with the brand new MC20! Standing for Maserati Corse, and the launch year of 2020 it makes a new chapter for the Italians with the car that features the 3.0l TT V6 Nettuno engine with F1 technology, and a carbon tub and bodywork.
However, some speculation can reveal some interesting thoughts from behind the scenes. In recent years we've been hearing rumours from both the Alfa Romeo camp of an upcoming 6C or 8C; a mid-engine supercar based around a carbon tub and sharing a variant of the 2.9l TT V6 in the Giulia Quadrifoglio, a car heavily created by ex-Ferrari engineers. Simultaneously, there has also been talk that Maranello might be working on a 'Dino', likewise a mid-engine supercar that seats beneath the 458/488/F8 line, a rumour that's been long standing.
At the same time, let's take a look at the Maserati Alfieri concept that launched back in 2014, and consider it against the new Ferrari Roma that arrived at the end of 2019. The similarities are heavy, from the overall proportions and shape of the arches, to the shark nose, rear window and body lines. This can be no coincidence!
What do you think, have Ferrari and Maserati effectively swapped the Alfieri and Dino to respectively become the Roma and MC20? Where do Alfa Romeo sit inside this? What do you think of the new MC20 as well?
Thanks for watching, Tim

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Shmee150
Shmee150 Πριν μήνα
What do you think about this Fuel For Thought topic, have Ferrari and Maserati indeed swapped cars? Let me know if there's something another topic you'd like my thoughts on!
Gadgety
Gadgety Πριν 25 ημέρες
Marco Tencone designed the timeless Alfieri presented six years ago. His boss at the time was Flavio Manzoni, who's now head of Ferrari design... He picked up the Alfieri cues and adapted it to an existing platform at Ferrari, a platform non existent in the Maserati/Alfa structure.
Michael Joseph
Michael Joseph Πριν μήνα
I think u just want to upload more video.......
TheBlue Carbon
TheBlue Carbon Πριν μήνα
I'm sorry but you are "probably" ;) wrong with your speculation here as likely as it sounds. First of all Ferrari and Maserati don't work together anymore and they don't and wont share platform engines ecc neither swap them. They won't even care about having overlapping models as Maserati's ones will be cheaper than the Ferrari counterparts. No more banning a new Maserati Gt car because there is a California to sell as it happened in the past. This Maserati is not the "Dino" you heard about simply because that car is still coming. Ferrari will probably position it as the replacement of the current F8 line. It will be more expensive than the MC20 and should be presented directly with a hybrid V6 powertrain and probably still with an aluminium chassis. It will be a baby SF90 with a V6 instead of a V8 and more practicality.
Michael Joseph
Michael Joseph Πριν μήνα
too late we know this already....10 months ago
WattsUpDev
WattsUpDev Πριν μήνα
II RIOT G II They have already sold 19k MC20s already 🥱😂
Drmcx
Drmcx Πριν 3 ημέρες
Well, the new Maserati has 458 side mirrors. Say no more.
babel101
babel101 Πριν 9 ημέρες
Non
Kresimir Milisa
Kresimir Milisa Πριν 26 ημέρες
And what are you you also have sponge in your head i am sick of bad criticism and when people say they are right.
Kresimir Milisa
Kresimir Milisa Πριν 26 ημέρες
What all of you think this car is is it like alfieri or some other car from maserati or ferrati when you are so smart people that knows every car jesus when someone has sponge instead brains.
Lijo Jose
Lijo Jose Πριν μήνα
Can you use a mic?
Octane Parker
Octane Parker Πριν μήνα
Change your intro
Ingmar Swalue
Ingmar Swalue Πριν μήνα
if you talk a lot, don't drive a car that makes so much noise!
onkas
onkas Πριν μήνα
Houston we have a Problem.. a Sound Problem. wrong Car for Story Telling..
Travis Garnett
Travis Garnett Πριν μήνα
@11:30 - AGREED, #SHMEE!! 😎👉⚡🔌🏎
dom cusano
dom cusano Πριν μήνα
13:08 I couldn’t get my head around a Toyota LFA
Sam Sam
Sam Sam Πριν μήνα
Notice the MC20 has the same steering wheel as the QV
MOR
MOR Πριν μήνα
ASTON MARTIN DB7 & JAGUAR F TYPE CONCEPT IN THE 1990s
KAAYALL
KAAYALL Πριν μήνα
I remember rumours years ago that Ferrari were going to make a mid-engined V6 twin-turbo supercar, I think the MC20 is definitely that. What you said about the Alfieri and Roma makes so much sense now. Intially I was wondering why did they need to make a front engined V8 gt car when they already have the Portofino as well as the V12 812.
Keith Fitzgerald
Keith Fitzgerald Πριν μήνα
For me, the Maserati is the better looking one. The Roma is too pointy, looks like a 1970's Chevvy Stingray front end lol.
D J
D J Πριν μήνα
Ferrari Roma has been stolen from Aston Martins design portfolio.
David
David Πριν 17 ημέρες
How, the concept in 2011 already had that look before Aston martin.
Perfect Pop
Perfect Pop Πριν μήνα
This is just plain stupid Please do not spread fake news
rolla
rolla Πριν μήνα
Roma is the ugliest Ferrari by far.
Pip Pipster
Pip Pipster Πριν μήνα
For some reason I thought the MC20 was going to be 100s of thousands £££
Fix Up Look Sharp /
Fix Up Look Sharp / Πριν μήνα
Looks like the noble m600 from the side
paul lunney
paul lunney Πριν μήνα
i have a maserati and a ferrari and i really like the look of both of these new cars
Nelson Club
Nelson Club Πριν μήνα
Nice catch Shmee - anyone else going to join me in thinking the Maser looks better?
火星版道恩·强森
火星版道恩·强森 Πριν μήνα
shmee≈屎密😂😂😂😂
oskar mały
oskar mały Πριν μήνα
Looking at MC20 steering wheel in particular - Its literally taken out of alfa
john ortensio
john ortensio Πριν μήνα
whatever the thought was between ferrari and maserati it doesnt matter to me they both look beautiful .
Andy Broer
Andy Broer Πριν μήνα
I posted on facebook on Sept 2nd pretty much the same topic that the Roma looks like the Alfieri was hijacked by Ferrari... so great minds and all that :-) Thanks for this post both my wife and I enjoyed it tremendously.... and she said I can get an MC20 if finances allow :-)... well that's what I heard anyway - lol!!
mpoirier2323
mpoirier2323 Πριν μήνα
Your Merc has no SatNav?
T Dog
T Dog Πριν μήνα
They're all the same company. Ferrari couldn't bring out an SUV or saloon, so Alfa has the Giulia and Stelvio Quadrifoglio, Maserati has the Levante. Ferrari wouldn't have a V6 in their line up at this time so badge it as a Maserati. Same with luxury limos, hence the Maserati Quattroporte. Ferrari has to keep its undiluted racing pedigree and heritage that Enzo stood for. Ferrari is Maserati and Alfa Romeo,
David
David Πριν 17 ημέρες
Yes, they are all owned by the Agnelli family.
TAYLOR FROM HEAVEN .
TAYLOR FROM HEAVEN . Πριν μήνα
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Dan z Man
Dan z Man Πριν μήνα
I came here to watch excitingly those sport cars displaced driven not talked about...typically GRpost con.
Abisanth Yokanathan
Abisanth Yokanathan Πριν μήνα
Isn’t Maserati still planing to launch a GranTurismo successor?
Justin Tompa
Justin Tompa Πριν μήνα
The new Ferrari looks like the Maserati concept and the 2017 BMW Z4 combined with a Ferrari logo on it. I’m not really sure I like it.
Kelly
Kelly Πριν μήνα
The new MC20 immediately appeared to be a watered down version of the Ferrari 458. Just my first impression.
Chilleee
Chilleee Πριν μήνα
Bit like Bosch Domestic Products buying brands around the world, such as Spain’s Balay Domestic Appliance manufacturer. In Spain you can buy a Bosch Washing machine for €600 or you can buy exactly the same washing machine with Balay branding for €300. It’s a way to maximise your profit margins. Morally your ripping off your high end customers, but hey, rich people don’t care. If Richard Millie made a turd for £100,000, got Kaye West to wear it, rich peeps will buy it.......
sunil eapen
sunil eapen Πριν μήνα
Well its crept into Ferrari, Maserati and Alfa as well. Design and engine sharing. Hope Ferrari still wont go i to the parts bin. By the way that Red Roma looking like a Mazda 3 hatch.
Michael Joseph
Michael Joseph Πριν μήνα
zzzzzz talking something other people already mentioned 10 months ago........
Michael Joseph
Michael Joseph Πριν μήνα
what a AMG and McLaren Fans boy
w punkeded
w punkeded Πριν μήνα
Mc20 steering wheels looks like from alfa... I'm thinking if it's engine too... 🤔
Rafael Samardzic
Rafael Samardzic Πριν μήνα
The MC20 is overpriced? You own a new ford gt m8
David Perri
David Perri Πριν μήνα
The MC20 was the Alfa Supercar that was cancelled. The Roma is the Alferi
Elias Scholz
Elias Scholz Πριν μήνα
As Ferrari was leaving FCA more and more and they canceled the production for Maserati engines from 2022 they probably made an agreement with Maserati to get their Alfieri Design for the Roma. Maserati therefore was able to produce a car which puts them back in the luxurious super car game, which gives the brand much more attention. Even tho the Alfieri would have fit better to the brand from my point of view. I hope the MC20 will sell well so that Maserati can produce a wonderful new electric Gran Tourismo, which is the most iconic Maserati from the last decade.
Divyum Dutt
Divyum Dutt Πριν μήνα
Ferrari and Maserati shared the enzo/mc12 it only makes sense there is a dino(Ferrari mc20) coming in the near future
Thomas von Tennenlohe
Thomas von Tennenlohe Πριν μήνα
Maserati is the cheap entry level line of Ferrari
Viduna Weerasinghe
Viduna Weerasinghe Πριν μήνα
I had never thought about it, thanks for pointing it out. And btw, why aren't you changing the steering wheel to the new one? Waiting for that moment.
pin9r
pin9r Πριν μήνα
I would be really concerned if I had Ferrari f1 tech in my car nowadays... 🤣
Stephen Jones
Stephen Jones Πριν μήνα
Prefer the MC 12 off top son
Jeffrey Wilson
Jeffrey Wilson Πριν μήνα
V6. Enough said.
ethansosa
ethansosa Πριν μήνα
I had so of the lines reminded me I’d Ferrari lines
Sami Seifeddine
Sami Seifeddine Πριν μήνα
😍🤩⁦❤️⁩
Christopher Touli
Christopher Touli Πριν μήνα
The Alfa Romeo Brera was actually intended for Maserati before it was shifted over to Alfa to put some less punchy engines in
Marko Polo
Marko Polo Πριν μήνα
I think the MC20 looks twice as nice in design than the Roma, don't know much about the engine in the MC20 though?
Monster Kill
Monster Kill Πριν μήνα
So now all of you knows where the Aston Martin Design is coming from "ALFIERI"
Jason Wright
Jason Wright Πριν μήνα
I’ve heard the MC20 is a rebodied Alfa 4C with a Alfa Giulia QV V6 🤔
José De Albuquerque Jr.
José De Albuquerque Jr. Πριν μήνα
MC 20 is a carbon fiber structure, definitely is not a Ferrari project. Maserati worked with Dallara, probably with help from Alfa Romeo, which is normal, they belong to same group. Roma is a Ferrari project with deep inspiration from Alfieri, his ugly brother actually, no more than this. Maserati insists that the next generation Gran Turismo will be based in Alfieri, let’s pray for that
FightCentralUK
FightCentralUK Πριν μήνα
The Veyron was originally a Bentley don't you know
JHart Modelworks
JHart Modelworks Πριν μήνα
I love the look of the Roma, but I have to say I think I like the grill on the Maserati concept better.
Donald Sinclair
Donald Sinclair Πριν μήνα
MC20 is pricey, yes- but what about the AMG Black Series? That’s ridiculous pricing...
BrianPatrick99
BrianPatrick99 Πριν μήνα
The Alfieri looks much nicer than the Roma not gonna lie
Suprx
Suprx Πριν μήνα
My theory was that the MC20 Was going to be a rebadged more affordable Ferrari SF90 Stradale Because they look very oldly similar
BrainFuck10
BrainFuck10 Πριν μήνα
It makes sense that as Ferrari was developing this new V6 Dino it became too expensive and too close to the F8 Tributo so they rebranded it
benzinapaul
benzinapaul Πριν μήνα
Everybody knew the California was meant to be a Maserati 4200 replacement effectively reducing the need to have a Coupe and a Spider but development costs spiralled so the only way it could turn a profit was to have a Prancing Horse on the bonnet. In the end I think Maserati did OK, the Gran Turismo 4.7 models are fantastic GT cars with more character and space than the Cali or Cali T.
Mikael Gaspar
Mikael Gaspar Πριν μήνα
Cars nowadays are too fast, we cant even enjoy them properly, they just frustrating. What we really want is sports cars with supercar sounds, emotional cars which are focused on the driving experience instead of cars that are just focused in numbers.
Slumdog214
Slumdog214 Πριν μήνα
No the mc20 was supposed to be an Alfa Romeo 8c. Giulia steering wheel, tail lights, and even tail lights. Yes the roma was supposed to be the maserati
Tiny Bruiser
Tiny Bruiser Πριν μήνα
I hate headlights on roma :/
bruh meme
bruh meme Πριν μήνα
8:20 this is exactly why I don't want anything modern. no one is spending the money to come up with something new, it's just a re-badged, re-skinned version of "whatever works". yet they expect me to pay at least twice what a car cost 20 years ago for it? no thank you. you want me to pay twofold the cost or more for a car, you can put some innovation and r&d into it.
Igor F
Igor F Πριν μήνα
More an alfa Romeo 4C whit the Giulia v6 engine QV
Maserati 3200 GT
Maserati 3200 GT Πριν μήνα
Maserati in the new Hypercar class in the WEC/le man?
AutoNovIta
AutoNovIta Πριν μήνα
Absolutly fake news, mc20 was developed by maserati/alfa romeo (fca) department and roma by ferrari. Two teams doesn't share almost anything. The real speculation is that mc20 should be alfa 6c
harakaz007
harakaz007 Πριν μήνα
The Maserati MC20 looks a little bit like Jaguar C-X75 concept
Q K
Q K Πριν μήνα
A bit late to the party shmee
Michael McDonald
Michael McDonald Πριν μήνα
Alfa Romeo literally announced a new 8C in like 2018 or 2019 and a month later it was announced that it was cancelled. They released a teaser outline and everything, and a Giulia Coupe was included in the announcement as well but that car was also cancelled and replaced with the Giulia GTA. So to me it is obvious that the MC20 was supposed to be an Alfa Romeo 8C up until the end. Was the 8C supposed to be a Ferrari Dino? No clue
glacier activity
glacier activity Πριν μήνα
How much road-, wheel and wind noise do you want in your MB SLS black while rolling gently on some B-roads? Yes.
Josue Cardoso barrios
Josue Cardoso barrios Πριν μήνα
You should get the mc20
James Cox _
James Cox _ Πριν μήνα
that california has so many granturismo body panels other than just the grille
Hui Chun Lok
Hui Chun Lok Πριν μήνα
It should have a V8
D SUMMERS
D SUMMERS Πριν μήνα
Excellent Fuel For Thought. What a shame that the Alfieri did not make it as for me it is stand out more attractive than the still excellent Roma. Perhaps one day we will see an aftermarket Roma inspired by Alfieri body conversion. Looking forward to driving impressions on the MC20 that is somewhat confusingly launched with the Trident badge on.
Aaron Dsouza
Aaron Dsouza Πριν μήνα
Are you planning to do a review of a normal car cause you know that most of us can't afford supercars
designlongog
designlongog Πριν μήνα
I think you're right. About the comparison between the MC20 and the McLaren you have to consider also the devaluation, indeed the McLaren is a bargain but the Maserati for sure will keep better his value in the future
dai3
dai3 Πριν μήνα
Your consideration is very exciting and romantic.
dusan ristic
dusan ristic Πριν μήνα
Maserati should have made Alfieri instead of Ferrari's Roma, Ferrari has it's entry GT in the face of Portofino. And about MC20, front looks like Jaguar CX75, middle like 458 and rear like McLaren GT, I don't like it. As for a drivetrain maybe Alfa should have made V6 sports car with around 500PS, Maserati V8 supercar with around 600PS, this way they are beneath Ferrari and everyone gets their piece of cake.
Daniel R
Daniel R Πριν μήνα
This looks like a type of car that gta would come out with
Mike Hanson
Mike Hanson Πριν μήνα
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FEE_lo
FEE_lo Πριν μήνα
Not going with Ferrari engine? Huge mistake. It was the only saving grace of the company.
David
David Πριν 17 ημέρες
that engine is based off the Ferrari 154.
Dark Project
Dark Project Πριν μήνα
I'm not very used to this type of format from you, the thumbnail caught me off guard as well lol. btw did you film any videos at the Mercedes Classic Museum? Really wanna see the 300SL video.
Joe Strickland
Joe Strickland Πριν μήνα
Shmee please be so kind as to go to the MaseratiYou Tube channel and see comments I left and relay them to the powers that be thanks again continued SUCCESS!
Francesco Carlo
Francesco Carlo Πριν μήνα
The new GranTurismo (alfieri) will arrive next year, alongside the Grecale, a more compact SUV to sit below the Levante. The MC20 a halo car.
Giulietta_QV_280HP
Giulietta_QV_280HP Πριν μήνα
It is stolen from alfa romeo when they were forced to stop to produce their next supercar. You cant create a new car from scratch in 2 years. Almost right after they were forced to stop devolpment they anounced this car. It even has design elements from alfa. And all the bits that were supposed to be in the alfa romeo, the engine the carbon fibre chassis etc.
bobic ramza
bobic ramza Πριν μήνα
im your new subscriber , love video on gumbal 3000 hope you record when journey on gumbal not just opening hehe
Borja Ojeda
Borja Ojeda Πριν μήνα
You really should look into getting a microphone for this kind of videos, Tim. We all love hearing your cars' engine sounds, but when the focus is on what's being said, relying on your camera's microphone makes it difficult to hear at times and it can be distracting. Just a bit to constructive criticism because I really want to keep watching your content! ;) Keep it up!
nsm
nsm Πριν μήνα
here we go again...maserati put out a high price supercar that will sell poorly which will lead to them delaying the gran turismo and focusing on suvs and claim once again the renewal of the brand....why would a struggling brand attempt to enter a market thats declining and has proven and trusted competitors such a ferrari and lambo that wont lose a shitload of value in few years as maserati will. They should of given us a beautiful car with the great sounding ghibli gts engine and priced it competively to compete with f type,amg gts.porche carerras...in this group they would be seen as more exotic and desirable and sell alot more.
Jose Luiz
Jose Luiz Πριν μήνα
Super Cars
Sergio Pereira
Sergio Pereira Πριν μήνα
you gave the LFA example and i agree ,giving it the Lexus brand could possible help selling them but even for a lexus 350k-400k was too much , that car needed a whole new brand :D talking about it just to ask you when you will buy yours ? Its a similar setup to the sls that you seem to love ,we know you need it and also youtube needs it .
Sergio Pereira
Sergio Pereira Πριν μήνα
alfa romeo doesnt have a new mid engine supercar as well do you guys expect a alfa twin of the mc20?
11Street Pilot
11Street Pilot Πριν μήνα
It definitely makes sense at all. Never realized on that! 😳
Vipul Krishna
Vipul Krishna Πριν μήνα
Make a video on why McLaren is selling their HQ. I am very sad about that news. Lot of them are telling different stories. Such as CarBuzz and some other GRpost videos. Please make a video on that.
Todestuete
Todestuete Πριν μήνα
They really nailed the mc20 design!
Ben Jones
Ben Jones Πριν μήνα
That blue lenz glasses are detrimental for your eyes
Sense 2017
Sense 2017 Πριν μήνα
I would had preferred the building of the Alfieri over the Roma. Especially the intrior design cues.
Adrian Hon
Adrian Hon Πριν μήνα
The back end tail lights looks like the Mclaren GT
Canna Ami
Canna Ami Πριν μήνα
Love fuel4thought
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